Firstly, a quick more theology-related note here, after I just re-read your paragraph above, Fencer for Jesus:

Fencer for Jesus wrote:

Regardless of which side you believe, do you believe God forgives our sin when we become a believer or do you believe he forgave it all for all of mankind at the cross? I believe that God forgave all of my sin at the cross before I was born. There is only one sin that is unforgivable and that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. So in this case, if all our sin is already forgiven before we become sanctified in Christ, would that open the door for us to be able to respond to God’s call? Just a thought.

This actually brings up yet another paramount objection to Free-Willieism, in that it naturally postulates that Christ died, not directly for the fixed-amount sins of whose whom the Father had given and would give Him, but in a theoretical sense to cover the sins of those who would decide of their own volition to follow Him.

I’m with Fencer, in that God — foreknowing people not because of what they would do, but because He actively foreknew them — predestined His redeemed ones from eternity past and died for their sins on the Cross long before they were born.

To me, then, yes: that certainly does affect whether someone will be able to receive that regeneration through a conscious choice: but again, that very ability to choose to repent and have faith and belief is a gift from God, Whose Spirit convicts and actively regenerates a rebel first, bringing the otherwise spiritually dead back to life, exchanging a heart of stone for a heart of flesh.

Again, it’s a wondrous thing: and it elevators conversion to Christ beyond the concept of a mere human “decision” that’s perhaps made at a church altar while the organ plays, but to the level of absolute miracle anytime it happens.

WriterforHim wrote:

As far as I can tell, all my arguments of logic were not addressed from previous posts. I would be very curious to hear everyone’s response.

We have that in common, anyway, Writer4Him. ;-) Again you’ve still bypassed all the Romans 9-related points, Grudem’s whole thing ([EDIT: as WiseWoman said, you keep trying for an easily spoken dismissal there, but not yet an actual Biblical/logical rebuttal) and especially a lot of what kotwcs has said about how no, regarding his own corrupt sin nature, man does not have Free Will — he is a slave to sin.

Particularly left unanswered — did I miss anything? — is that the “(What About) All These Other Verses”-based arguments, often cited by those leaning forward free-willie-ism (again I am compelled to note that I use this term with smiles, endearment and the greatest possible respect!), don’t contradict Reformed views at all, but are instead at the most open to varying interpretation.